Sunday, February 25, 2024

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Saturday, February 24, 2024

Google Delete your Photos but Keeps Them Somewhere Else

They are not only spying on your phone they are deleting your photos.
Here is what is happening on Android. It did happen to me.

Lately I've noticed something happening a lot to me where photos that I have downloaded to my (Android) phone (or even took with my phone) end up being removed from my device, but stay in Google Photos.

This occurs without ANY input from me; that is to say I am not purposely deleting these at all. An unusual pattern I've noticed as well is that it seems to occur to the SAME photos each time (or newer ones for the first time). As well, this occasionally removes entire albums/folders from my Google Photos app on my phone. 

For example, I downloaded a bunch of pictures, put them into a device album/folder (Utilizing the App option in the "..." in the top right called "Move to Folder", then "New Folder") called "D&D Characters", and then today noticed that the entire album/folder was gone, and the photos were gone from my device. They still existed, however, under the "Photos" tab in the bottom-left of the App.

Being curious and wanting to investigate, if I opened the photo and selected "Info" under the "..." options in the top-right of the photo, the usual file path of "/storage/emulated/0/Pictures/D&D Characters/1419834706685.jpg" was replaced simply with the file's name "1419834706685.jpg", but no file-path to indicate it was on my phone any longer - the photo only existed on the Google Photos back-up/cloud/sync. 

In further noting, any photos that had the file-path gone, I could click "Save to Device" in the top-right options menu, and it changed the Info to include the file-path again, and I could then move it to an album/folder on my device again. I have done this SEVERAL times before with many of the same photos, and it ends up downloading them to a "Downloads" album/folder in the Google Photos app, and I have to RE-organize into the albums/folders they were in (For clarification, I do NOT mean I am moving them while hooking my phone up to my computer. I don't do any organization on my computer file Explorer, on my Google Account on my PC, or outside of the Google Photos app on my phone). But then a while later (I don't know the exact timing), the photo will once again be removed from my device and stay saved in Google Photos. 

I have NEVER clicked the "Free Up Space" option, to clarify as well. 

I KNOW others have experienced this before, and I have noticed threads from last year, or further back experiencing almost the EXACT same issue. There's generally no true answer to why this occurs, if there's a proper fix, and in many cases an expert responds, says they'll follow up, and then goes permanently silent. 

I want to fix this issue on my phone so I don't have to continually scroll through 100+ photos and click "Save to Device" every week or two. Can anyone with Google give a full answer to this issue and address it? I've seen a few instances where people say "It's impossible to create folders using Google Photos", but if that's the case, why would the option be CALLED "Move to Folder" ?

Anyway, that's my current issue, problem, rant, what-have-you. Looking for answers and any assistance is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you!
Details
Backup,Android


OS: Android 9

Android's DownloadManager has a function called cleanOrphans; files that have passed through the Downloads folder and then get moved to a different folder get seen as orphaned files by DownloadManager, which deletes them when the device enters a doze mode idle maintenance window.

Even though the files have been moved out of the folder, it's still able to find them to delete them, perhaps it's storing file inode # and looking it up by them.

I set up a service using termux and inotifywait to monitor the folder that my stuff was being removed from, and it logged a series of DELETE calls to the files, which helped me track it down in logcat. Interestingly, the files were not opened and they didn't have their attributes checked, it simply started with the DELETEs.


In my case, the images I was downloading were things like brand assets, family pictures from Facebook, memes, and so on. I then sorted them into folders via the Google Photos app.

There's many, many cases of this happening to people:

https://support.google.com/photos/thread/200457?hl=en "Pictures got deleted on their own", 909 replies, varied issues here but many people describing the same situation

https://support.google.com/photos/thread/106201?hl=en "Photos disappeared after moving to another device folder", 55 replies, same situation described

https://support.google.com/photos/thread/560768?hl=en This user has Google photos backup turned on so they don't actually lose the images, but they get repeatedly deleted from the device.
Note this sentence: "..., and it ends up downloading them to a "Downloads" album/folder in the Google Photos app, and I have to RE-organize into the albums/folders they were in" indicating that they pass through the Downloads folder first, thus through DownloadManager.

I found one mention of cleanOrphans here: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/78078399

A patch was submitted, but never merged.

https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/platform/packages/providers/DownloadProvider/+/674009

Eventually, it was closed automatically.

I would appreciate more attention to this issue. I've lost a lot of great memes...as well as brand assets and such that I painstakingly sorted into their own folders, only for them to be summarily removed. But beyond the images/videos being lost, it could be more important things, such as PDFs with receipts, etc.

Steps to reproduce:

- Download some images or videos
- Move them to a different folder (I used the Google Photos app to do the actual move, but I don't think that matters)
- Wait overnight for the system to do its doze mode maintenance and for DownloadManager's cleanOrphans to run
- Your files are now gone

pa...@gmail.com<pa...@gmail.com> #2Jan 30, 2020 02:18PM

Same thing happened to me last night. Thankfully it was just memes but I spent hours organizing them into different folders.

za...@gmail.com<za...@gmail.com> #3Jan 30, 2020 07:16PM

It doesn't seem to actually be DownloadIdleService (What you're seeing as DownloadManager in the logs).

You can force it to run immediately with the following ADB command:

adb shell cmd jobscheduler run -f com.android.providers.downloads -100

Testing on a Galaxy Note9 running Android Pie and an OPPO Reno2, also running Android Pie, I can't reproduce this by forcing DownloadIdleService to run. While it does create the log entries you're seeing, it doesn't actually delete the files that have been moved. I've tried moving them using Google Photos, OPPO's built-in Photos app, Samsung's My Files, app, and MiXPlorer. I've tried downloading images from both Chrome and Discord.

There's also a comment above what generates the logs:

// File appears to live on internal storage, or a
// currently mounted device, so remove it from database.
// This logic preserves files on external storage while
// media is removed.

This (and the corresponding code) tells me it only deletes the database entry, and doesn't actually touch the filesystem.

Unfortunately, I think it's something else in the maintenance cycle that isn't directly related to DownloadManager.

te...@google.com<te...@google.com>Jan 31, 2020 12:40AM

Assigned to te...@google.com.

te...@google.com<te...@google.com> #4Jan 31, 2020 04:48AM

@apburk, thank you for reporting this issue. For us to further investigate this issue, please provide the following additional information:

Android bug report (to be captured after reproducing the issue)
For steps to capture a bug report, please refer: https://developer.android.com/studio/debug/bug-report#bugreportdevice

Alternate method
Navigate to “Developer options”, ensure “USB debugging” is enabled, then enable “Bug report shortcut”.  Capture bug report by holding the power button and selecting the “Take bug report” option.

Note: Please upload the files to google drive and share the folder to android-bugreport@google.com, then share the link here.

ap...@sudomemo.net<ap...@sudomemo.net> #5Feb 1, 2020 12:24AM

Hey, thanks for the instructions. I have some questions about the actual timing of the bug report, however. I think I can have Termux do the same thing as before but also trigger a bug report when it detects that files have started being deleted (I believe there is an intent I can signal via am to do this, but can't recall off the top of my head) Should this be done before the deletion starts, during, or after? Doing it before might be a bit of a challenge as I can't access system-wide logcat from within Termux, though I suppose I could hook it up to my laptop and watch logcat to trigger it.

Cheers,

Austin.

te...@google.com<te...@google.com> #6Feb 4, 2020 06:24AM

Please reproduce the issue again and take the bugreport immidiately after the files get deleted.  

Note: Please upload the files to google drive and share the folder to android-bugreport@google.com, then share the link here.

td...@gmail.com<td...@gmail.com> #7Feb 7, 2020 01:37AM

I have observed the same behaviour on my pixel 4. I'll try and reproduce it and get the bugreport filed too.

te...@google.com<te...@google.com> #8Feb 11, 2020 04:25AM

Please share relevant information mentioned in comment #6, if you are still facing the issue.

ap...@sudomemo.net<ap...@sudomemo.net> #9Feb 12, 2020 04:30PM

I should have the bugreport by tomorrow or the day after - it's taken a bit to come up with a way to take the report, but I now have something that will play loud music right when it happens, waking me up so I can take the bug report.

ap...@gmail.com<ap...@gmail.com> #10Feb 16, 2020 12:11AM

I've done so, though there doesn't seem to be a way to generate a folder link from the mobile Drive app, so here's a link to the zip: https://drive.google.com/a/sudomemo.net/file/d/1zjF37F9l22DnIuf1p7AkqCYwCgvNbNTI/view?usp=drivesdk

It's been shared with that email address.

vc...@gmail.com<vc...@gmail.com> #11Feb 16, 2020 05:17PM

Same thing happens to my phone. I can't even find photos from last month but the photos on my cloud from long ago appears in my camera folder.

te...@google.com<te...@google.com> #12Feb 19, 2020 01:44AM

Thank you for reporting this issue. We’ve shared this with our product and engineering teams and will continue to provide updates as more information becomes available.

as...@gmail.com<as...@gmail.com> #13Mar 29, 2020 12:19PM

I have the same problem on Moto g6. How do I recover these files? What is the best way to do this? They were just on my phone a few days ago

sa...@outlook.com<sa...@outlook.com> #14Apr 28, 2020 06:03AM

Any updates? My images were just deleted again today.

wi...@gmail.com<wi...@gmail.com> #15Apr 28, 2020 12:07PM

I'm tired of downloading and re-downloading again and it kept deleting and it came into my conclusion that it really is a bug. Can those photos be retrieved once this was fixed?

li...@gmail.com<li...@gmail.com> #16May 3, 2020 11:57AM

I'm having the same issue

ga...@gmail.com<ga...@gmail.com> #17May 16, 2020 11:18AM

Same thing happened to me

kh...@gmail.com<kh...@gmail.com> #18May 18, 2020 10:12PM

I have the same problem on OnePlus 5t

ma...@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> #19May 21, 2020 08:47PM

What now?

sa...@outlook.com<sa...@outlook.com> #20May 23, 2020 06:01AM

I know I've already commented but are there any updates on this issue? Once again all my files were deleted off my device and Im getting quite sick of having to redownload them.

ta...@gmail.com<ta...@gmail.com> #21Jun 4, 2020 10:42AM

Any updates ? My phone has just deleted all 900 of my photos yet again???

ta...@gmail.com<ta...@gmail.com> #22Jun 4, 2020 10:43AM

This keeps happening. I've got photos of my son I'm losing. This is ridiculous. Nothing I do stops it.

t....@e3n.de<t....@e3n.de> #23Jun 5, 2020 03:21AM

regarding comment #6 - it's difficult to produce a bug report because you don't know when it's going to happen. I've not been able to observe a regular routine so that I can wait and catch it happening. If I could, I'd have more than one bug report for you. I can verify, that, connected by cable/usb-drive and copying the exact same images to the the exact same folders does not have the this problem. It only happens, if images are downloaded to the phone.

sa...@outlook.com<sa...@outlook.com> #24Jun 30, 2020 06:13AM

All my images and videos! Gone yet again! This time it didnt even take a month from the last time this happend. Just, woke up and poof, gone. Im losing stuff every time I need to redownload everything. Im beyond pissed. Is this actually being looked into??

ra...@gmail.com<ra...@gmail.com> #25Jul 28, 2020 11:14PM

I've also have this issue on my Motorola One Action running Andriod 10. This is extremely bothersome

c9...@gmail.com<c9...@gmail.com> #26Aug 2, 2020 10:45PM

Hi, I've been experiencing this problem for months now as well. I am using a Oppo R11S and I have had over a hundred photos in my downloads folder that have been deleted every time I switch off my phone at night. Is there any way to rectify this issue? It is seriously affecting my experience of using Android.

rd...@gmail.com<rd...@gmail.com> #27Aug 6, 2020 10:23AM

This is happening to me as well on a Pixel 3.  Last night it deleted a bunch of video files that were in use in a video editing app.  HOURS of work gone... this needs a patch.

lo...@gmail.com<lo...@gmail.com> #28Aug 9, 2020 04:00PM

Occurring on an updated Google Fi Moto x4, did not appear to occur before. Lost many pictures out of folders in the Pictures directory, unrecoverable but the folders they were in are still there, empty.

sa...@gmail.com<sa...@gmail.com> #29Sep 4, 2020 07:31PM

I'm not phone or computer savvy so I apologize for this stupid question but, is there a solution yet? Took photos of my son on vacation hours ago and they all just deleted 😭. Phone was dragging, restarted, system update, and then I had to helplessly watch each photo get deleted right in front of me. Nothing I could do and I'm devastated. Why is Google not addressing this?

sa...@google.com<sa...@google.com>Sep 11, 2020 07:51AM

Reassigned to ra...@google.com.

br...@gmail.com<br...@gmail.com> #30Nov 3, 2020 07:48PM

Mine is a little different. My albums keep deleting themselves but the photos stay in Google Photos. I’m thankful that I don’t lose any images but I really would like for my albums to not delete themselves without my permission. I also happen to have an iPhone so I’m really confused on why my albums delete on their own.

One client wrote this

Dear Google,

could you please check some of the earlier posts again. Some of the people commenting have taken the time to give some in depth insights to the problem, even linking a proposed patch. Bug reports have been filed in the past, but the issue was never dealt with.

Capturing a bug report that actually shows the problem is extremely difficult. We've all discovered our images have disappeared long after the process of deleting them took place. Providing a bug report capturing the process would mean observing the images constantly for days, waiting for said process to happen. Sometimes it happens overnight, sometimes it's been days later that the images are gone.

Steps to reproduce:

- Download some images or videos
- Move them to a different folder (doesn't matter which app you use)
- wait and see that they are at some time deleted

You can also reproduce this by downloading images directly to a folder other than the download folder.

This is a real problem that is hard to pinpoint. Please don't ignore it or close the issue.

They closed the issue.

Thursday, February 22, 2024

ET Origins Of The Human Race

The Dgon tribe of Africa claims Sirius as their home as do the ancient Egyptians.

The Mayans claim the connection with the Pleiadians.

The Jewish high priests came from two regions of the galaxy. The first was Pluto. There were men who had dread like braids of colored material throughout. They wore white hats and white ribes.
Heir skin was fair and luminous. None of them had red or blonde hair.
They used the 6 pointed star or star tetrahedron  and the flower of life as an emblem.

They introduced metallurgical teachings 0and osmosis or.acute scientific methods if transforming matter.
They created a geometric barrier that helped preserve the Earth from harsh galactic intruding elements meteors or spores and other matter that could be harmful to the life on Earth.
They knew how to prevent climatic imbalance.
The second group of priests were people of the Sun.They looked Mayans Asia , Ancient Egyptian or even Atlantean. They had brown and blue eyes. Their skin was tan or yellow (Asian).
Originally they were a culture of men who had evolved into having females as part of their race. They wore whitenrobes and two sashes crisscrossed across their chest.On the bottom of their robe they had some type of tassels and they had bare feet.
They looked very much like ancient Levitical priests drawn during the time of Moses who protected the Arc of the Covenant.They carried the Holly of Holiest within them.

The Holy of Holies (Hebrew: קֹדֶשׁ הַקֳּדָשִׁים‎ Qōḏeš haqQŏḏāšīm or Kodesh HaKodashim; also הַדְּבִיר haDəḇīr, 'the Sanctuary') is a term in the Hebrew Bible that refers to the inner sanctuary of the Tabernacle, where God's presence appeared. According to Hebrew tradition, the area was defined by four pillars that held up the veil of the covering, under which the Ark of the Covenant was held above the floor. According to the Hebrew scripture, the Ark contained the Ten Commandments, which were given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai. The Temple in Jerusalem was said to have been built by King Solomon for keeping the Ark.
These beings were of pure light and helped the Earth immensely and they carried the energy.